go_guy123
06-12 12:10 AM
...were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. ......
Without any visa capture....EB2/EB3 India will get flushed in this deep recession.
Without any visa capture....EB2/EB3 India will get flushed in this deep recession.
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conchshell
07-29 02:50 PM
Well, I think the scenario is different. It is somewhere inbetween those two thought processes:
1. They are counting on CP case; but not much. If you look in the past stats about EB cases processed via CP, it is usually a very small number (and this would just make sense: if you are doing EB green card, you will be working in US and will do AOS). CP cases can not be more than several hundreds.
2. The major hopes DOS has is on USCIS to process large number of cases. And they ARE capable of doing so; but only RANDOMLY (not in the order of PD or FIFO or anything like that). It is very unlikely that DOS will let USCIS waste any visa numbers. Because it is DOS's responsibility, not USCIS's. And that was main reasoning behind July Fiasco; where DOS wanted to prove that it is not DOS but USCIS who is responsible for the wastage (remember, there were some 60000 visa numbers unused at that time). This time, they are playing the game of "cooperation". DOS will advance dates only till USCIS can handle (not everything Current); and in exchange USCIS will use up all the numbers.
If USCIS can not show that they have used up at least 75% (or something in that range) of the remaining visa numbers (which are probably in the range predicted in this thread giver or take few thousands) by mid august, DOS will further advance dates in sept. If USCIS shows that they used up most of the numbers, dates may go back. It would not matter what the dates are in sept as the end result is the same: all the remaining visa numbers will be used (probably randomly) to people with PDs upto mid 2006.
I do not buy the "CP using numbers" theory from Ron or Murthy. It is all about allowing USCIS to use the numbers randomly and let them pick the "low hanging fruits" (as they usually like).
For the next fiscal year, they will move dates back to mid 2004 (just a wild guess), but I dont think it matters any way...(till the end of the fiscal year). USCIS will probably go in hibernation again till the last quarter of next year and the date will advance again dramatically (may be upto 2008) to let them use all the left over/spilled numbers.
I think that its a reasonable analysis.
1. They are counting on CP case; but not much. If you look in the past stats about EB cases processed via CP, it is usually a very small number (and this would just make sense: if you are doing EB green card, you will be working in US and will do AOS). CP cases can not be more than several hundreds.
2. The major hopes DOS has is on USCIS to process large number of cases. And they ARE capable of doing so; but only RANDOMLY (not in the order of PD or FIFO or anything like that). It is very unlikely that DOS will let USCIS waste any visa numbers. Because it is DOS's responsibility, not USCIS's. And that was main reasoning behind July Fiasco; where DOS wanted to prove that it is not DOS but USCIS who is responsible for the wastage (remember, there were some 60000 visa numbers unused at that time). This time, they are playing the game of "cooperation". DOS will advance dates only till USCIS can handle (not everything Current); and in exchange USCIS will use up all the numbers.
If USCIS can not show that they have used up at least 75% (or something in that range) of the remaining visa numbers (which are probably in the range predicted in this thread giver or take few thousands) by mid august, DOS will further advance dates in sept. If USCIS shows that they used up most of the numbers, dates may go back. It would not matter what the dates are in sept as the end result is the same: all the remaining visa numbers will be used (probably randomly) to people with PDs upto mid 2006.
I do not buy the "CP using numbers" theory from Ron or Murthy. It is all about allowing USCIS to use the numbers randomly and let them pick the "low hanging fruits" (as they usually like).
For the next fiscal year, they will move dates back to mid 2004 (just a wild guess), but I dont think it matters any way...(till the end of the fiscal year). USCIS will probably go in hibernation again till the last quarter of next year and the date will advance again dramatically (may be upto 2008) to let them use all the left over/spilled numbers.
I think that its a reasonable analysis.
STAmisha
10-04 04:55 PM
STAmisha,
Once u sent ur application, did nt u have to go for an interview and then a Physical. Also, I have heard that to get PR stamped onto ur passport, u actually need to physically enter Canada. Kindly confirm?
I did not have interview. I had my interview waived.
Once all the processing is complete, they will ask you send you the passports. They will give you PR visas which will be valid untill 1 year from your medicals. You have to land before the visa expiry dates.Once you land in Canada, they will take a Canadian address to send the PR card to you. You can give friends address in Canada.
Once u sent ur application, did nt u have to go for an interview and then a Physical. Also, I have heard that to get PR stamped onto ur passport, u actually need to physically enter Canada. Kindly confirm?
I did not have interview. I had my interview waived.
Once all the processing is complete, they will ask you send you the passports. They will give you PR visas which will be valid untill 1 year from your medicals. You have to land before the visa expiry dates.Once you land in Canada, they will take a Canadian address to send the PR card to you. You can give friends address in Canada.
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reachinus
07-30 04:04 PM
Hello Atty, Hope you can reply to my question as well. Please let me know if I should contact the CBP and tell them about this or just ignore.
Thanks for your time in advance.
I am not saying that the AP cannot be used again, but it cannot be used after the Validity on the AP which is 1 year from the Issue date and the date on the I-94 doesn't have any meaning.
For example
My AP was issued on Oct 18th 2007 and I can use it to travel till Oct 17th 2008. But people are saying that they are issued an I-94 with a date which is 1 year from the date they enter/use the AP.
But my concern is that I was issued an I-94A which doesn't have any date on it. Should I be concerned about that?
Thanks for your time in advance.
I am not saying that the AP cannot be used again, but it cannot be used after the Validity on the AP which is 1 year from the Issue date and the date on the I-94 doesn't have any meaning.
For example
My AP was issued on Oct 18th 2007 and I can use it to travel till Oct 17th 2008. But people are saying that they are issued an I-94 with a date which is 1 year from the date they enter/use the AP.
But my concern is that I was issued an I-94A which doesn't have any date on it. Should I be concerned about that?
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sumitpendharkar
06-28 06:08 PM
Visa Bulletin April 2007
PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001
E. VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
Employment-based: It is likely that the Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� (EW) category will become unavailable beginning in May.
Both of these issues are the direct result of low annual limits and very heavy demand for numbers, primarily for adjustment of status cases at Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices.
Visa Bulletin for May 2007
PD for Other workers category was U (unavailable)
E. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY BECOMES �UNAVAILABLE� FOR MAY
The Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� category is expected to reach the annual numerical limit during April. As a result, the category will become �Unavailable� beginning in May and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.
Visa Bulletin for June 2007
PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001
D. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY FOR JUNE
A few �Other Worker� numbers which had been allocated for April were returned unused at the end of the month. As a result, a very small June allocation has been possible, for applicants with priority dates before October 1, 2001. The category will become �Unavailable� once again beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.
So the VB does in fact indicate that there is only a "small June allocation" possible.
PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001
E. VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
Employment-based: It is likely that the Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� (EW) category will become unavailable beginning in May.
Both of these issues are the direct result of low annual limits and very heavy demand for numbers, primarily for adjustment of status cases at Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices.
Visa Bulletin for May 2007
PD for Other workers category was U (unavailable)
E. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY BECOMES �UNAVAILABLE� FOR MAY
The Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� category is expected to reach the annual numerical limit during April. As a result, the category will become �Unavailable� beginning in May and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.
Visa Bulletin for June 2007
PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001
D. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY FOR JUNE
A few �Other Worker� numbers which had been allocated for April were returned unused at the end of the month. As a result, a very small June allocation has been possible, for applicants with priority dates before October 1, 2001. The category will become �Unavailable� once again beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.
So the VB does in fact indicate that there is only a "small June allocation" possible.
chanduv23
02-15 11:48 AM
Thanks for an excellent research and arguments. Some of the arguments are well presented.
Well, if you are not ready to lead and we do not have anyone else to lead then whats the point of forming the yahoo group? Please don't get me wrong, I am just trying to find out the objective of this yahoo group.
I think lazycis taking a step forward towards the creation of a group, but does not seem confident he/she will lead the group, but I am sure will definitely lead the group
Well, if you are not ready to lead and we do not have anyone else to lead then whats the point of forming the yahoo group? Please don't get me wrong, I am just trying to find out the objective of this yahoo group.
I think lazycis taking a step forward towards the creation of a group, but does not seem confident he/she will lead the group, but I am sure will definitely lead the group
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srikondoji
06-26 12:32 PM
nope. The august bulletin which gets released mid july didn't get into our arguements at all. We were specifially talking about july filers and july month.
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
Yes, the august bulletin will be showing retrogressed dates. But when August bulletin is issued in mid-July, it does not impact the petitions received in July, because the August bulletin applies to August and even if August is retrogressed until 1975, they still have to accept 485s until 31st July.
That's what your lawyer said. Right?
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
Yes, the august bulletin will be showing retrogressed dates. But when August bulletin is issued in mid-July, it does not impact the petitions received in July, because the August bulletin applies to August and even if August is retrogressed until 1975, they still have to accept 485s until 31st July.
That's what your lawyer said. Right?
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GCKaMaara
05-29 04:09 PM
All those people who are saying let us inform USCIS, if 50% of them go home today and draft letter and post or email it, then that will be significant achievement for today. Emotional exchanges without any concrete plan after a bad news is norm here. Look at the past few bulletins. Let us do gandhigiri, let us do flower campaign, let us do rally, questiion is WHAT WE REALLY DO not "LET US".
Five letter word: U N I T Y
Five letter word: U N I T Y
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timberlake
09-04 04:17 AM
What you have mentioned is the only good thing Mr. Backstabbing Naidu did. rest of AP is like Hell except Hyd... Govt employees pensions on the edge to be removed... Power charges increased 600% .. He is a next to dictator... one has to bow to his party men the villages or cities ... even a simple activity needs his partymen's approval... This is what makes difference... any politician is a politician... just a diff how one interacts with ppl makes one like YSR. undoubtedly there are poor ppl who got benefited from him. land sale was intially started by Mr. Naidu...
Btw he just had 2 acres of land now he is king of 2000+ Crores... think about it also... AP media has yellow fever...
Btw I am from AP and i take side and i went through it...
on part of Corruption... there is corruption with any party and in all stages of govt... But he is far far far better than dictator naidu ... no one bothered for him when he was almost attacked during once by naxals... think about it...
btw _TrueFacts_ you also look into these facts before commenting... may be you just have TDP/eenadu _YellowFacts_...
Btw he just had 2 acres of land now he is king of 2000+ Crores... think about it also... AP media has yellow fever...
Btw I am from AP and i take side and i went through it...
on part of Corruption... there is corruption with any party and in all stages of govt... But he is far far far better than dictator naidu ... no one bothered for him when he was almost attacked during once by naxals... think about it...
btw _TrueFacts_ you also look into these facts before commenting... may be you just have TDP/eenadu _YellowFacts_...
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gopinathan
07-28 10:59 AM
Jayleno - me thinking sane is the reason you didn't hear from me in any malls/WM :) but I was a minority in BWW who believes in waiting till you find like minded people who are looking. cold contacting is just going against human instincts. you can't simply talk to a person about something to get his phone number and call them about this business next day. that is a reg flag right there. i couldn't do it and hence not with this business anymore. many of us are not ready to think about making millions in few short years. some people need to understand that you can't rub that idea with force on another human being.
in BWW terms, i was a quitter who can't take the business to the next level because I was afraid of rejection (getting a NO from prospects)..
I think you are one of the most sane Amway guy I have heard from. Thanks for all the explanation. Now I know I have a problem with BWW and their approach not Amway. Looks like they are good brainbleachers.
in BWW terms, i was a quitter who can't take the business to the next level because I was afraid of rejection (getting a NO from prospects)..
I think you are one of the most sane Amway guy I have heard from. Thanks for all the explanation. Now I know I have a problem with BWW and their approach not Amway. Looks like they are good brainbleachers.
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gimmeacard
07-28 03:45 PM
I am not with Amway or Quixtar but I think the folks with Amway/Quixtar are under represented on this thread and it's not fair :-)
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
this is somethign heard only from @mway subscribers, sure u r not one :-)
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
this is somethign heard only from @mway subscribers, sure u r not one :-)
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minimalist
05-12 12:12 AM
I wonder what is causing people to say this water is for Kanndiga's. This state is only for Marathas.
Water issues always arise when the stae above tries to have as much as it can with no regard to the sates below. Instead of politicians in Karnataka thinking we should play fair, they stoke the regional sentiments saying we will give our lives to protect Kannadiga interests. Same story with every state where there are enough gullible people to assume that they are fighting for their right. As long as they have fish to bite the race/ethnicity/language/caste cards, they will do it.
If you can't find anything to be proud of about India, then I don't know what to say.
I am following the discussion. The reason I mentioned about Maratha issue is to bring attention to the fact that I have issue with the segregation on basis of regional/ethnicity and not against Tamilians specifically.
Remember this is 2009. If that doesn't answer your question on why shouldn't compare Bangladesh with Srilanka, nothing ever will. (You can wake up the person who is sleeping , but you can't wake up some one who is pretending to be sleeping.)
I am an Indian and my native tongue is not Tamil. I donot consider the issue in Srilanka as Tamil issue. I don't consider it as Indian issue either. I consider it as Srilankan issue.
Hope this addresses some of your questions.
Originally Posted by minimalist
---For one second hold on your patriotism for India. What kind of greatness did you find in India? Supreme court orders to share the water between TN and Karnadaka. But state of karnataka don't obey the court order. Everytime TN has to beg for water. Same is true with Kerala. Bihari, peoples can not go and work in Maharastra; It is shame that happens in same country. why Bihar to Maharastra? You can not bring the TN labors just live 2 km from kerala border to work in tea estate in Kerala where communist has strong union to protest the job taken away by other state labors. Here we are talking about restriction on H1B. It is just two examples of millions of social, economical, political problems in India.
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-----Are you following what we are discussing? We are not talking about Maratha for Marathi or Tamilnadu for Tamils.
----May we know why one should not compare India's role in Bangladesh with SL?.
The problem with SL issue, most of the Indians consider this issue as a "Tamil" issue rather than "Indian" issue.Thats why, though severity and number of life lost in SL is much greater than bangladesh, people ask this type of question.
Water issues always arise when the stae above tries to have as much as it can with no regard to the sates below. Instead of politicians in Karnataka thinking we should play fair, they stoke the regional sentiments saying we will give our lives to protect Kannadiga interests. Same story with every state where there are enough gullible people to assume that they are fighting for their right. As long as they have fish to bite the race/ethnicity/language/caste cards, they will do it.
If you can't find anything to be proud of about India, then I don't know what to say.
I am following the discussion. The reason I mentioned about Maratha issue is to bring attention to the fact that I have issue with the segregation on basis of regional/ethnicity and not against Tamilians specifically.
Remember this is 2009. If that doesn't answer your question on why shouldn't compare Bangladesh with Srilanka, nothing ever will. (You can wake up the person who is sleeping , but you can't wake up some one who is pretending to be sleeping.)
I am an Indian and my native tongue is not Tamil. I donot consider the issue in Srilanka as Tamil issue. I don't consider it as Indian issue either. I consider it as Srilankan issue.
Hope this addresses some of your questions.
Originally Posted by minimalist
---For one second hold on your patriotism for India. What kind of greatness did you find in India? Supreme court orders to share the water between TN and Karnadaka. But state of karnataka don't obey the court order. Everytime TN has to beg for water. Same is true with Kerala. Bihari, peoples can not go and work in Maharastra; It is shame that happens in same country. why Bihar to Maharastra? You can not bring the TN labors just live 2 km from kerala border to work in tea estate in Kerala where communist has strong union to protest the job taken away by other state labors. Here we are talking about restriction on H1B. It is just two examples of millions of social, economical, political problems in India.
...
-----Are you following what we are discussing? We are not talking about Maratha for Marathi or Tamilnadu for Tamils.
----May we know why one should not compare India's role in Bangladesh with SL?.
The problem with SL issue, most of the Indians consider this issue as a "Tamil" issue rather than "Indian" issue.Thats why, though severity and number of life lost in SL is much greater than bangladesh, people ask this type of question.
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jsb
06-05 01:32 PM
It is very clear that there is absolutely no meaning for "quota" on 485 applicants.
They are allowed to continue to stay in US forever, from the date of their application (assuming the case is good, and eventually will be approved, when visa is available).
So the whole argument about "diversity" or even "controlled immigration" doesn't stand, since the 485 applicants are here permanently "except" for an official "GC card".
The only thing the "quota" does is creating "uncertainty" in the mind of genuine applicants. This causes less spending, less home buying and eventually causing bad for the US economy. This just creates a second layer of "tax-payers" who have extremely high "purchase power", but doesn't utilize their purchase power, due to "uncertainity"
I wonder why the politicians doesn't realize this simple fact yet?
They either shouldn't allow 485's to wait in US (for diversity & controlled immigration claim), or should just remove the quota for 485's, and let them live their lives & utilize their purchase power to help US economy.
Note that Adjustment of Status ( AOS) concept itself is a benefit to future immigrants who are already in the US (as a visitor, or guest worker), so that they don't have to go back to their country and wait for their turn. This in a way violates the country quota system. Normally people should apply for immigration from their home country, and come to the US only when they are accepted as immigrants. We are here in contradiction to the legal diversity requirement supposed to be enforced via country quotas, but we now say that there should not be such a diversity requirement because we are here anyway. This argument, of course, doesn't suite us, but is a proper one for the situation.
They are allowed to continue to stay in US forever, from the date of their application (assuming the case is good, and eventually will be approved, when visa is available).
So the whole argument about "diversity" or even "controlled immigration" doesn't stand, since the 485 applicants are here permanently "except" for an official "GC card".
The only thing the "quota" does is creating "uncertainty" in the mind of genuine applicants. This causes less spending, less home buying and eventually causing bad for the US economy. This just creates a second layer of "tax-payers" who have extremely high "purchase power", but doesn't utilize their purchase power, due to "uncertainity"
I wonder why the politicians doesn't realize this simple fact yet?
They either shouldn't allow 485's to wait in US (for diversity & controlled immigration claim), or should just remove the quota for 485's, and let them live their lives & utilize their purchase power to help US economy.
Note that Adjustment of Status ( AOS) concept itself is a benefit to future immigrants who are already in the US (as a visitor, or guest worker), so that they don't have to go back to their country and wait for their turn. This in a way violates the country quota system. Normally people should apply for immigration from their home country, and come to the US only when they are accepted as immigrants. We are here in contradiction to the legal diversity requirement supposed to be enforced via country quotas, but we now say that there should not be such a diversity requirement because we are here anyway. This argument, of course, doesn't suite us, but is a proper one for the situation.
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eb3_nepa
06-28 05:15 PM
Still, just because DOS told USCIS "Visas are exhausted" doesnt mean they should stop ACCEPTING new petitions. They can stop APPROVING new ones, but why stop ACCEPTING new petitions. Visa bulletins guide the filing as well as approval of petitions. If visa bulletins is current, then they can both accept and approve petitions.
Logiclife No offense but I would keep pushing your lawyer. If he was REALLY confident, he would have stuck to his guns and filed at the end of July, the very fact that he has said he will file in the Beginning of July means that he knows, s**t happens FAST when USCIS is concerned ;)
Logiclife No offense but I would keep pushing your lawyer. If he was REALLY confident, he would have stuck to his guns and filed at the end of July, the very fact that he has said he will file in the Beginning of July means that he knows, s**t happens FAST when USCIS is concerned ;)
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mnkaushik
09-17 09:47 AM
I know that many applied on March 05 just the week before Perm was going to start through the normal process and not RIR. I remember there was a way that they could abandon that application and apply thorugh the PERM process but keep their date. I know a friend of mine who did it. All these numbers suggested above makes sense only after we pass March 05.
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beautifulMind
07-16 02:47 PM
I am currently working as a Programmer Analyst on EB3 and Using my EAD through 485.
I plan to convert to a new postition that of Senior Applications Developer in the same company where the job duties will be atleast 50% different from my existing position
But here is the problem If i am using my EAd obtained from Eb3 program Analyst position then can I work on another position which is 50% different from my existing position as per AC21 rules
I plan to convert to a new postition that of Senior Applications Developer in the same company where the job duties will be atleast 50% different from my existing position
But here is the problem If i am using my EAd obtained from Eb3 program Analyst position then can I work on another position which is 50% different from my existing position as per AC21 rules
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whatamidoinghere
02-22 04:26 AM
Looks like lot of data is available for us to crunch on:
Labor certifications from 2000 to 2006
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
H1Bs issued from 2002 to 2006
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseH1B.aspx
Hopefully using this data we can get some rough prediction on cutoff date movement. I'm going to spend the coming weekend on this.
Labor certifications from 2000 to 2006
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
H1Bs issued from 2002 to 2006
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseH1B.aspx
Hopefully using this data we can get some rough prediction on cutoff date movement. I'm going to spend the coming weekend on this.
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ilwaiting
10-24 11:33 AM
Looks like a question for "HowStuffworks.com". But anyway, this is a complicated issue that an attorney can advise you better. And as you might see not many people here like this topic.
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ksircar
08-21 09:43 PM
My daughter's current AP is valid till 10/3/2008. She has applied for AP renewal and finger printing is done. Now she needs to attend a course abroad starting later this month and will return to USA on 12/13/2008. Can she leave USA with current AP and return using new AP?
Please advise.
Regards.
Please advise.
Regards.
GCSOON-Ihope
10-24 11:57 AM
I 100% agree that selling or buying an LC should be absolutely prohibited.
However the principle itself makes sense in some cases.
A few years ago, a friend of mine was endlessly waiting for his LC when a co-worker of his (with an approved LC) suddenly quit to go back to his home country. The company (that was paying all the fees) then used this approved labor so that my friend could get his GC faster. Since that company was fair and honest, he never had to pay a dime for it.
So, he got his GC a couple years ago and I am still waiting...
Am I jealous? You bet! Angry? No. My friend took advantage of a legal loophole and, let's not be hypocrite here, who wouldn't have done the same in this particular situation?
But again, making a business out of those LCs should be 100% illegal.
However the principle itself makes sense in some cases.
A few years ago, a friend of mine was endlessly waiting for his LC when a co-worker of his (with an approved LC) suddenly quit to go back to his home country. The company (that was paying all the fees) then used this approved labor so that my friend could get his GC faster. Since that company was fair and honest, he never had to pay a dime for it.
So, he got his GC a couple years ago and I am still waiting...
Am I jealous? You bet! Angry? No. My friend took advantage of a legal loophole and, let's not be hypocrite here, who wouldn't have done the same in this particular situation?
But again, making a business out of those LCs should be 100% illegal.
eb3_nepa
06-28 12:54 PM
it is fine to fedex on saturday or not..Please let me know. I have to call my lawyer.
From what i know,your application will not be accepted if it reaches there before July 1st. Since July 1st is a sunday, the earliest you can send it is Monday july 2nd.
From what i know,your application will not be accepted if it reaches there before July 1st. Since July 1st is a sunday, the earliest you can send it is Monday july 2nd.