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  • deba
    07-10 11:29 AM
    congrats byeusa. wish you the best. I just sent you a personal message here. If you get a chance please reply. Again, congrats.





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  • srkamath
    07-23 03:10 PM
    Legal, Thanks again. Also that is where exactly is the contradiction in analysis.

    In my understanding, they must apply any spill over to EB3 too. EB3 gets 28.6% of total quota (Including spill overs). If some one is sure that it is not the case, please correct me.

    If spill over was already applied and if EB3 will not open up again, then EB3 already got its share of spill over and EB2 also used up some part of that spill over, so only part of that spill over is left for the 2 months.

    If spill over is not applied yet, then EB3 should get 28.6% of what ever is spilled over to total EB quota. Hence EB3 should open up again.

    Please note that I am not making this complex. I am only pointing at complexities.

    The 28.6% does not apply to spillovers - it is only for fresh allocations. Spill over goes sideways first until all in an EB category are filled, then spills over to the next EB category where again it spills sideways first.





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  • sumagiri
    10-07 04:47 PM
    I have built a very simple EB2-I Visa predition model

    Making following assumption

    15000 new EB2 ROW I-485 applications
    12000 new EB1 I-485 applications
    EB4/EB5 use 70% of allocated visa (30% spillover)


    EB2 Visa Bulletin prediction for FY 2010
    Bulletin Quarterly-spillover Annual Spillover
    Oct-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Nov-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Dec-09 31-Mar-2005 1-Feb-2005
    Jan-10 31-Mar-2005 15-Feb-2005
    Feb-10 31-Mar-2005 31-Mar-2005
    Mar-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Apr-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    May-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jun-10 15-Oct-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jul-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Sep-2005
    Aug-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Apr-2007
    Sep-10 31-Mar-2007 30-May-2007

    Sachug, it is a great attempt to compare the quarterly and annual spill overs. I made rough calculations couple of weeks ago with annual spill over. However, I assumed around 25K ROW visas(both pending and new) for EB2. And assumed only aroudn 125K for AOS keeping 15K for CP. I will compile all of my assumptions and post here. Overall, my calcs estimated EB2 move to Dec 2006. By the way, I hope you took China in to consideration for spill over.





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  • sgmavinkurve
    07-21 07:32 PM
    Folks, let's not stereotype desis or any particular race. I ran into this Malaysian couple of Chinese descent who approached my wife and I at IKEA in the Chicago area. They tried some of the same techniques as described in this thread...
    I was very surprised and confused because we had no connection in terms of race, native language, or look. I am hard core - lungi-dhari desi :) So you see it's the Amway/Quixtar/BWW culture and nothing to do with any race, regionalism or language. My $0.2

    I don't think anyone was suggesting that race or ethnic background has anything to do with it. There was no suggestion that the Amway bug bites only Desis. The Amway bug can bite anybody regardless of their background. All are vulnerable.

    Yet, the fact of the matter is that the Amway bug has bitten more than a few people in the Desi community, and those individuals are actively trying to lure others. And from what I've seen and heard, they primarily target other Desis. We should be aware.



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  • MYGC2008
    09-24 10:24 AM
    There won't be any spillover to EB3 unless EB2 ROW becomes current.

    Based on following link:

    http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/New%20Structure/2nd%20Level%20%28Left%20Nav%20Parents%29/Green%20Card%20-%202nd%20Level/Pending%20Form%20I-485%20Reports.pdf

    28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB3-India + Spillover from EB2 and EB1, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".
    28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB2-India + spillover from EB1
    28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB1-India + spillover from EB4 and EB5


    Each category is 28.6% WW Quota.

    WW Quota consists of 5 country specific sub-quotas 1)India 2)China 3) Mexico 4) Philipines 5)ROW.

    Based on page 1, I do math as under for Philippines categories.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 70 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1890
    2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
    3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1890 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11858 - pending 74 = Total
    11784 will go to EB2
    4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11784 =19792, Pending: 510, So total 19282 VISA numbers will be spilled
    over to EB3.
    5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19282 spill over =27290 - 11563 Pending = 15727 VISA extra.
    6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 264 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15727-264 = 15463 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
    of other countries.


    Based on page 3, I do math as under for ROW categories.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 1378 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 582
    2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 40 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1920
    3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 582 + EB5 spillover 1920 = 10510 - pending 2477 = Total
    8033 will go to EB2
    4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8033 =16031, Pending: 7150, So total 8881 VISA numbers will be spilled
    over to EB3.
    5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8881 spill over =16889. Pending: 62840 -16889 = 45951 applications will
    still be pending and pushed to year 2011.

    Based on page 4, I do math as under for China categories.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 384 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1576
    2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1947
    3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1576 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11531 - pending 607 =
    Total 10924 will go to EB2
    4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 10924 =18932, Pending: 19333, So total 401 applications will be pushed to
    year 2011 with pending approval.
    5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + no spillover = 8008 � 6343 Pending = 1665 visas Extra.
    6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 30 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 1665-30 = 1635 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
    of other countries.

    Based on page 5, I do math as under for India categories.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 123 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1960-123 = 1837
    2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-13 = 1947
    3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1837 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11792 - pending 418 = Total
    11374 will go to EB2
    4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11374 =19382, Pending: 47728, So total 28346 applications will still be
    pending for year 2011.
    5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008, no spill over. Pending: 62607 -8008 = 54599 applications will still be pending
    and pushed to year 2011.

    Based on page 6, I do math as under for Mexico categories.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 62 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-62=1898
    2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
    3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1898 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11866 - pending 174 =
    Total 11692 will go to EB2
    4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11692 =19700, Pending: 211, So total 19489 applications will spill over to
    EB3 category.
    5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19489 spillover = 27497 � 7878 Pending = 19619 visas Extra.
    6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 8415 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 19619-8415 = 11204 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
    of other countries.


    TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15463 + 1635 + 11204 = 28302.

    Assuming these unused visas from Philippines, China and Mexico will be used for India, ROW equally India will benefit additional 14151 VISAS this year. Assuming all of these go to EB2 India Pushed down figure for EB2-India for the year 2011 will be 28346 � 14151 = 14195 pending EB2-I applications ready to go to year 2011.





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  • nixstor
    10-10 01:07 PM
    Dont a CAN PR Card holder need to live in CA for 3/4 yrs before he gets to file for Citizenship? If you live in CAN for 3/4 yrs and have citizenship, you have basically no problems living in CAN. (not with the weather, only economic hardships). Now, I dont know whether people can get away with citizenship some how without living in CAN. If the GC mess is same here, why would you want to come back here on TN visa and live an uncertain life or with a plan B that takes you back to CAN incase of any discrepancy.



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  • swo
    07-13 03:16 AM
    Buying a home in CAN $ 200000 in year 2007 will give you $ 5000 top in Year 2030

    Home appreciation in Canada is strong and sustainable. The recent anomoly of soaring prices in the US, all experts agree, was driven by loose lending policies, and the sorts of bad loans that are simply not permitted in Canada. As a result, they are now not experiencing the same depreciation that is being felt in many US cities.

    Housing prices in Canada do of course vary tremendously. And go through cycles. Vancouver is very expensive. Toronto is close on its heels. But to suggest homes don't increase value in Canada is perhaps the dumbest of the many dumb things you've said here.

    I mean here we are in the middle of what all economists argue is a gloomy US housing market and you try and come up with nonsensical criticisms of the Canadian housing market.

    Where do you get these utterly baseless comments? Use facts when you make an argument. They are more helpful to readers than rants without substance.

    Disseminate real information. Information that you can bring to light that may actually enlighten me and many others.

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  • 485Mbe4001
    05-29 02:31 PM
    :) he did say hope is on the way...but forgot to say which way or he was try to say what would hope's tombstone read...

    Here lies HOPE...it was IN the WAY :rolleyes:

    to the others who are bitching and moaning about EB1's, a few months back we were worried about the EB3 converting to EB2..before that we were worried that EB3's were getting more visas than EB2's and so on.....we will keep fighting about the handfull of misallocated visas or work towards recapture. The most important thing from Murthy's letter is that USCIS has started preadjudicating 485 which simply means that there are ton of people stuck in this mess who are waiting to be approved... a handful of visas is nothing...lets all unite and work towards recapture.

    Well I am pissed with this whole set up of immigration in this country.. did not obama's campaign say " HOPE IS ON THE WAY".. well its seems for skilled immigrant workers it is " HOPE IS OFF THE WAY"



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  • Madhuri
    09-23 02:10 PM
    This is a very good initiative and moreover the timing is perfect for this.
    I sent out emails and did my part.





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  • vdlrao
    07-23 10:41 AM
    vdlrao, Thanks for the great analysis.
    I am using DOS visa statistics and I arrived at EB quota numbers for 2008 as 162,707. There were 22,707 unused FB visa's in 2007 based on the DOS visa statistics @ http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_1476.html
    Typically the actual EB quota for the FY is revised in the September bulletin. I am not sure if DOS has already taken into account the new EB quota number for the Aug bulletin. If they hadn't taken into account the new quota number then we should see some forward movement in the Sep bulletin.

    However the 28,795 AC-21 recaptured visa's U are talking about has already been used in 2002, please take a look at the below mentioned link for details regarding the usage of those visa's.

    http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY2003%20AppD.pdf

    All the AC-21 recaptured visa's has been used by now.

    mpadapa, I am getting 31,100 unused Family Based Visas for 2007 fiscal year from
    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf
    .
    DHS bulletin is not updated correctly like Employment Based AC21 VISAS? Please let me know.



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  • BPforGC
    08-11 01:39 PM
    Sir

    I got I-140 approved based on EB2-NIW (filed in April 2007). No labor required.

    I filed my 485 during July 2007 when everything became current.

    When they get to my 485, are they going to process and approve if VISA number is available based on the filing date?
    (or)
    Then will keep it aside until EB2 for India becomes current based on my I-140 filing date (which is April 2007)? Currently the date for India is June 2006.

    So, approving 485 is based on order of filing and VISA number availability or based on priority date at the time of 485 reviewing?

    In other words, do USCIS assign VISA numbers only for the petitions whose priority date is current at the very moment when the IO looks into the application i.e., is it prevented by Law to assign VISA numbers to petitions whose priority dates are not current at the time of assigning?

    Thank you very much.





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  • samay
    07-22 11:41 AM
    Hi Forum,

    I have come to USA last year and was getting paid consistently till May31. Now, on July 2nd new employer (not a desi, but a big company) applied for transfer on premium processing. I'm continuing with my old employer, and they are marketing me, and have all such emails. Just wanted to know whether the paystub will be an issue for transfer? And how soon can I join them, and what is the risk if I join them now, before I wait for response from INS?

    Any response in this regard will be highly appreciated.

    Normally the last two pay stubs are required and it become an issue and you may get a RFE.



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  • MYGC2008
    09-25 03:15 PM
    I agree with you EB2ROW might have not got 20K visa in the past. That may be because economy was good, lot of EB1 apps, spillover not done properly etc.

    But Why not this year? economy is still not good, less EB1 apps and probably USCIS might do the right spillover. It is only hope.

    I don't think in any year EB2ROW has got 40K GC in the past, even when the economy was in good shape.

    Does anyone has links for the annual GC issuance per country/per category for 2008. I missed the link.

    The worst case scenario would be 20,000 max. That means EB2(I) will move to Mid or3 rd quarter of 2006 by end of 2010.





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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-17 08:51 AM
    There are 2.5 EB2-I application per EB2-C application. And EB2 China had cutoff dates of early 2005 in 2009 (they did not enjoy too much spillover in 2009). So my guess it that China will use its 3k annual limit + spillover numbers (depending on how much EB2-C dates move). The spillover would be split 25% china and 75% India.

    Do you have any data to back your claim? I beleive there are more EB2 China numbers than India. I remember seeing some data a while back where Indian EB2 & Eb3 ratio was close to 50% where as China it was 80% EB2 to 20% EB3. Which makes me think there are more EB2 china than india.



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  • meridiani.planum
    09-23 04:56 PM
    the bailout amount of 700billion shows you how deep in trouble the market is.
    How many do you estimate will really buy a home if there is a law like this.
    Do you have any survey, any real study with proper numbers?? If its 1000 people, its not going to be worth the trouble for them. If its 20,000 real commitments, then we are talking... With downpayments of 250k and mortages for the rest, we are soon talking some pretty decent numbers here (assuming bay area kind of home prices)

    Also you mentioned IV is discussing this. Do you mean core IV team is officially involved in a campaign or is this just ur own initiative.





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  • Imigrait
    06-13 12:22 AM
    look man wether anyone likes it or not fact is that jobs are going to two countries with a billion dollar plus population ... they are hardworking and they are verrrrrrrryyyyy hungry.... so even if you stop immigrants alltogether from coming to this country .. it does not matter. The jobs will simply go there (to China and India). After all the companies exist to serve their shareholders and not their employees and the simplest way to maximize profit is to cut cost. Simple!!! the outsourcing offshoring train has just started and there is no stopping it.

    You may argue to some extent that the complexity of your job will provide your protection but the fact is management is always scared off complex functions that require expensive resources (i.e human beings) .. management will always want to break down your job to lowest common denominator so that it can be shipped or done at lower cost. For that they will be willing to go all the way - including changing technology , buying into marketing BS or spending millions of dollars.

    Also if the american market dies is that going to be a very big deal ? not anymore .. the domestic market of both India and China is getting bigger everyday .. the fire has been lit and the horse has been left out of the stable .. its at a point of no return.

    So brace for the change because the times are a changing...

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  • gagbag
    07-03 09:47 PM
    http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/02/ap3879453.html





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  • Dhundhun
    08-08 04:57 PM
    My kids aged out. Is there any way they can take benefit of my immigration based on my PD? Otherwise, how can they benefit?

    My daughter turns 21 in 2003
    PD 03/10/2005
    My son turns 21 in Apr 2005
    I140 filed Oct 2006, approved Sep 2007
    I485 Applied in Aug 2007

    Thanks in anticipation.
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  • lordoftherings
    07-11 06:24 PM
    DO NOT go through any of these agencies. they just put additional delays in your PR processing. I got my Canadian PR in 14 months without any professional help.

    On an average, they will charge $3000 and cause an additional delay of 3-6 months in your case

    And they are not 'PR Processing' companies. They just forward your application to the CIC.


    Can you share with us the steps (or a link maybe) to file on our own.? I have heard of Maple a lot and most of my friends in the west coast are going through them. That's why I referred their name here. Note: I am not paid to market them and they are very expensive :(

    thks!!
    lotr





    Caliber
    09-04 09:37 PM
    Now I think new people are running IV.
    xxxxxxxx (Walden Pond) is not controlling now. That is the reason these idiots have got the admin previlages. Now they do nothing worthwhile. Bunch of jockers.

    It was Jesus's decision to punish YSR for having used his name to kill innocent people. Do you want to be next in line? Learn forum rules. When you do not use your real name, you have no right to use other's real names.

    Walden Pond spent US $ 65,000.00 of his own money for the sake of others and not for his personal benefit. You did not contribute single dollar and talk others with names?

    Please behave yourself.





    gdilla
    05-10 03:42 AM
    Once again, eb2waiter, a baseless statement in "Canada is not a land of opportunity". No one owes you a living. You have to work for it. If you're such a good IT worker, become a consultant or open up your own business doing so. You can't expect someone to hand you a job. Like someone else stated, if your skills are in demand and a good communicator, you'll be fine.

    And yes, I had a US job offer before arriving here.

    And if you're already here as a student, well, I can't think of a better way to research the job market from within - job fairs, colleagues, etc.

    Also, I don't see your point - if you're an immigrant student in Canada, there is no issue of foreign credentials. Any professional distinction earned in Canada lands you on the same footing as any citizen. So again, please stop spreading bad information.


    Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
    There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.

    There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D

    For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
    It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.

    Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.

    I wont post on this thread again :)

    ---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---



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